Coffee & Cocoa: A Conversation About Reconstructing Your Family After They've Deconstructed Their Faith

Hosted by: Kari Bates and Kimberly Bates

Coffee and Cocoa is a conversation between a faithful LDS mother and her daughter who has left the church — and proof that families can come back together even when they're walking different paths. If you're an LDS...

Episodes

E2: Kimberly's Story

Season #1 June 17, 2026

Content note: This episode contains references to sexual assault and suicidal thoughts. Please take care of yourself as you listen. In this episode Kimberly tells her faith story in complete for the very first...

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E3: Kari's Story

Season #1 June 17, 2026

Content note: This episode contains references to suicidal thoughts. Please take care of yourself as you listen. Last week, Kimberly told her story. This week, it's Kari's turn. Kari grew up immersed in the LDS...

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E4: Any God Worth Worshipping

Season #1 June 17, 2026

After the last two episodes of telling their stories, Kari and Kimberly return to the present. What do they actually believe now, and where do they agree and disagree? Kari and Kimberly discuss: the existence of God,...

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E5: Love Is Not Control

Season #1 June 17, 2026

Estrangement. It's the word nobody wants to say out loud, and the reality too many LDS families are quietly living. In this episode, Kari and Kimberly get into what actually causes families to break apart when a child...

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Introduction to Coffee & Cocoa

Season #1 June 13, 2026

What do you get when a lifelong LDS mother and her daughter who left the church sit down to talk honestly about faith, family, and everything in between? Coffee and Cocoa. Kari is a family relationships coach who...

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