Coffee & Cocoa: A Conversation About Reconstructing Your Family After They've Deconstructed Their Faith

Hosted by: Kari Bates and Kimberly Bates

Coffee and Cocoa is a conversation between a faithful LDS mother and her daughter who has left the church — and proof that families can come back together even when they're walking different paths. If you're an LDS...

Episodes

Episode 19: Temples: Sacred Space and Separation

Season #2 October 28, 2026

When Kari and her husband started their family in 1994, they chose to be sealed in the temple because they believed that it would bind their family together for eternity. When Kimberly and their other children chose...

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Episode 18: Peacemaking

Season #2 October 21, 2026

What does it mean to be a peacemaker? In this episode of Coffee & Cocoa, Kari shares with Kimberly a presentation she attended by author, professor, and podcaster, Patrick Mason, where he shared four basic tools...

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Episode 17: Josie's Story

Season #2 October 14, 2026

Our family is a lot bigger than just two people. This week, younger sister, Josie joins Coffee and Cocoa to tell her story for the first time start to finish. Josie grew up as the “perfect child”: smart, pretty, a...

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Why Gen Z Women are Walking Away

Season #2 October 07, 2026

Season two of Coffee and Cocoa is here! Kari and Kimberly are back from a long break, and they jump right into the conversation that's been all over their feeds while they were away: why so many young women are...

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